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1/27/21 attn [REDACTED]
[REDACTED]
I am still very afraid of this woman (GM)
She is powerful woman
I was made aware of that during my time w/
JE/GM
concern retaliation
not nice woman, she vicious
I observe - she very much did not like the women
1st encounter w/ GM
Strongest memory
on island - believe my 1st or one of 1st
GM there
she very short, rude,
some training b/w me, GM and other woman
I met [REDACTED]
thought very little of us
ate meals w/ us lot of things ignored
when we say
stuck up snobby cold
JE say GM jealous - GM was madly in love
w/ him & do anything for him
worked for him
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it was very clear to her that I did not have
much sexual experience
don’t know if she knew/thought I virgin
me, GM [REDACTED] on porch
some point JE came in when GM showing
us how do things
I embarrassed
whatever JE want
would be wise take serious what she teach us &
to perform on him
show us diff ways how mans genitals be
pleasured, where to touch
demonstrate on her hand/fist
JE walk in what are you girls doing
we on couch, back to movie theater
his office nearby
GM told him she was teaching us
JE say good,
“You girls listen to Ghislaine, she know what
she doing”
I 1st laughed it off
clear I was uncomfortable
I didn’t know she knew what happening w/ me
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introduced to GM
I was made aware she had lot of power
JE say madame of island or something
actions
chef/staff very attentive to her
not like w/ me/others
she tell staff JE like this/don’t like this
wasn’t booking flights like [REDACTED] was doing
[REDACTED]
Dec 2006 shortly went island after mtg JE
I remember b/c Jan 07
I was in Nutcracker & we in rehearsal
I don’t think I would have gone while perform
nutcracker
went walk & got in trouble
be present all time for JE
ask b go anywhere
I interact w/ GM several times at mansion
no threesome
think GM dislike b/c JE liked me
JE very stern w/ her couple times
angry w/ her
argument
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I don’t remember there being months go w/out see
her
Saw GM
island
mansion NYC 71st
may met up in NYC but not sure
I went errands w/ JE in NYC
I don’t believe she on visit when I went NM
Island
when I arrive there younger women there
don’t know age. some didn’t speak English
seemed GM & Jean Luc in contact
felt like I coming & it was a changing of shift
GM knew them
some type of authority over them
young woman bring something to office & she say
no JE does not like that
tell them what do
GM little more harsh w/ [REDACTED]
think b/c she brought [REDACTED] in
tell how dress/behave
I went school for massage therapy
certified mass. therapist
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What occurred from beg. about massage
distinguish b/w then/now
I didn’t understand then ← no no sexual acts
I gave JE very real massage
& sexual things occured
GM say
when massage JE this what should do
I feel strongly she say
mass table in bedroom - everyone knew table in there
dark shades in bedroom
massage & sex got blurred back then
GM set things up dinner
she say set up massage table JE wants massage
it would be massage then turn into sex encounters
I believe
when GM not there, be [REDACTED] say set up
[REDACTED] - lot of times come from her mouth
another girl
I share guest rm - some girls did not speak English
boat come drop me off girls leave next day
ask to bring someone?
JE threaten me if be in best interest
gave me less money b/c I didn’t
subtle hints
[REDACTED], [REDACTED] hint at
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Girl I friend w/ ([REDACTED])
she knew girl who introduce me JE
she knew sit. w/ JE
I told her what he say
she free spirit
she said she do it - we very poor
I felt guilty & she said she fine
JE didn’t like her
she not innocent enough
My sis supposed come to island for my bday
JE manipulate me
I didn’t think anything like that would happen
he had met her b4 - help her w/ her eye
I’d seen [REDACTED] bring her bfs to island & nothing happen
JE clearly like young women
never said age
told us how we get to [sic] old for him
When women passed 21/22 yo they pass their
prime
he liked innocent or those that not sexual
activity
below age 22 yo
I don’t think he even want that old
I was nervous b/c I was 20
convo [REDACTED] & [REDACTED] think
why can’t be like these girls
go out clubs & get women
GM reiterate something
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all around training period (GM)
once he got to know me it switch over to him
I think when he thought he could trust me it
would be him communicate w/ me
Know someone named [REDACTED]?
My sister
her legal name [REDACTED]
she prefer [REDACTED]
know [REDACTED]?
doesn’t come to mind
better w/ faces
photo w/ me & 3 girls who dancers
don’t remember names
JE exchange emails?
Yes
he very careful w/ what email
JE text?
Don’t recall
JE anything privated talking in person/phone
GM email/text?
No
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