9/30/2021
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wanted to apologize to us because she felt that
she may have minimized during our last meeting that
she knew the girls were under age. wanted to
be clear that she was wrong and knew this.
context from modeling world: when she saw
underage girls, red flag didnt go up because
she used to be an underage girl as a model. she
didnt have the courage to step up and say
something at the time.
Want to be clear that all we want to know is
the truth. Please do not apologize or concerned about
us, we just want to hear the truth and do not have
any expectation that you knew or say anything in
particular.
She does not feel any pressure at all, she
is going to accept responsibility.
I am telling the truth i do not feel any
pressure from you to say anything. It has
been a process for me to come to accept
responsibility
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-Shared household manual. Has never seen this before.
-recalls at some point [REDACTED] typed a list of
what to do when JE travelled- packing etc.
-Does not recall ever being household manual
[Illegible] sexbook [?]
no
no
no
no
almost at first thought this was [REDACTED] but not certain. almost a young version of her
no
Jeffrey Epstein
no
no
no
no
no
recognizes this person from the media that this is [REDACTED]
no
no
Ghislaine Maxwell
do not recognize
no
no
no
- Shown ex[hibit] A.
- "This is me. I do not remember this photo
being taken. do not recognize location
from 2004-2006 because that was when she was
in his home, not sure what location this was
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ex[hibit] b- "this is me & JE at USVI little st. james
at entrance to the island." doesnt recall this
being taken.
[illegible]
"[REDACTED] was GM’s assistant who worked
from GM's home [REDACTED] may also have been
her assistant [illegible] @ her residence."
Last saw GM 05-06
would recognize if she saw in courtroom
Wall of photos in NYC house like trophies.
Not sure if famous people in photos in PB [palm beach]
Not sure if there were photos in PB bathroom
-10-15 massages discussed in person. may
have been in contact with more people that she
did not see. this is the group that were [running?]
-might have been masseuses who came w/
someone else she did not have contact with, larger
group of masseuses than the returning group
-around 20, 15-20 people came for appointments
during this time in PB
Remembering Ghislane’s [illegible] book, does not recall
whether there was a section for messages or
not, there might have been.
-JE had a gun in his bedroom it made her afraid.
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Ghislaine's book
-it was common knowledge that there were two
books
formatting of book is the same, text is the same
-50 years old,
light [?] as around PB
dressed casually, under impression [?]
b[e]c[ause] [?] of investigates
asked for an interview said it was up to [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] x jeffrey
-was married at the time
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/D ... 159394.pdf
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