Detective: "-enters the room, he lays on the and asks her to get comfortable. She stated that she couldnt remember if she provided the massage naked but knows that she removed, i'm sorry she had rubbed his legs, thighs and feet. All during this time, Epstein turned onto his back so that she could rub his chest and he started to masturbate, which was another thing the other girls. Every time there was a massage, Epstein would masturbate himself." \\ Female: "Was she able to see his penis or was it under the towel he had come out in?" // Detective: "He had exposed his penis to her, removed the towel which made it visible." \\ Female: "How long did that go on?" // Detective: "She had been to his house over a two year period she had stayed there hundreds of times." \\ Female: "I meant the masturbation." // Detective: "Oh, it was for several minutes." \\ Female: "Ok. Did he touch her at all that first time?" // Detective: "I believe he did use the vibrator on her, if I recall." \\ Female: "I'm going to direct you to page 39, second full paragraph halfway down. I believe your report says Epstein touched her breasts." // Detective: "Yes." \\ Female: "Ok. So at that point, he touched her breast do you recall if it was that first time [unintelligible]." // Detective: "Yes, no he did touch her breasts as he masturbated." \\ Female: "Was she paid money for that visit?" // Detective: "$200." \\ Female: "Did she go back to his house?" // Detective: "Yes she did." \\ Female: "And I guess you've told us for about two years she went there, is that a yes." // Detective: "Yes correct." \\ Female: "She estimates over a hundred times?" // Detective: "Yes, she does." \\ Female: "Ok. Did the situation with [bleep] progress?" // Detective: "It did. During the timeframe that she was attending there over a two year period, she stated that every time she went there, it didn't have to be involving the massage or anything kind of sexual encounter. At times that she would go, she would end up just having dinner or talking with Epstein. At one point, Epstein introduced his other assistant [bleep] she explained that he had brought her from Yugoslavia to United States to be his sex slave." \\ Female: "Were you ever able to confirm that?" // Detective: "I know that she is here on a visa, a modeling visa." \\ Female: "You don't know the purpose she's here other than you were able to confirm the visa." // Detective: "Yes. Shes here for a visa." \\ Female: "What did [bleep] describe as the progression of sex acts?" // Detective: "He introduced [bleep] into their routine." \\ Female: "So it became a threesome at some point." // Detective: "Right. He had asked [bleep] to perform oral sex on [bleep]. [bleep] originally had refused. He enticed her by giving her additional monies to perform this act for 5 minutes." \\ Female: "How much additional monies?" // Detective: "$200 extra." \\ Female: "And then she agreed?" // Detective: "At which point she agreed." \\ Female: "Ok. Was it always just the masturbating in front of [bleep] and sex acts with [bleep], or were there additional sex acts with jeff epstein?" // Detective: "It was explained that at one point towards the end, prior to [bleep] turning 18 or just after. It was - it had been previously spoken there would be no vaginal penetration by Mr. Epstein. She has stated that Mr. Epstein had a deformed penis and did not want to have any kind of intercourse with him. It was after one of the -"
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