PART 2: Video Transcription of EFTA00182656

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PART 2: Video Transcription of EFTA00182656

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// JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit however at the present time my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit. I must accept their advice or risk losing my 6th amendment right to effective representation. However I’d like - so I’m clear, the question was did I bring her here? I want - so we’re clear. Specifically did you -” \\ BE: “Your answer’s fine.” // JE: “Ok.” \\ BE: “Is it true that you demanded numerous underage minor females to have sex with [bleep] inside your home while you watched, masturbating?” // MP: “Same objections.” \\ JE: “You’ll have to repeat the question, I’m still unclear.” // BE: “Isn’t it true that have ordered several underage minor females to have sex with [bleep] in your home while you watched, masturbating?” \\ MP: “Same objections.” // JE: “The current US attorney has described your firm, Mr. Edwards as a criminal enterprise involved in mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and in fact fabricating multiple cases of a sexual nature against me, others in order to fleece unsuspecting investors in south Florida out of millions and millions of dollars. Unfortunately though I’d like to answer each one of your questions here today, my attorneys have advised me I must assert my 6th amendment, 14th amendment and 5th amendment right under the US constitution. Though I believe you know that I’d like to answer your questions, but at this moment I must assert those rights or risk having my attorneys resign.” \\ BE: “Isn’t it true that with each of these underage minor females that was brought to your house, your method of sexually exploiting them was nearly identical. Is that correct?” // MP: “Objection. Argumentative, confusing, overbroad and vague.” \\ JE: “I don’t understand the question.” // BE: “Ok. When a 14 or 15 year old would be led into your bedroom you would appear from the shower first, usually naked, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Objection. Argumentative, assumes facts not in evidence and harassing.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit however today my attorneys have advised me I cannot provide any answers to questions relevant to this lawsuit and I must accept their advice or risk losing my 6th amendment right to effective representation. Accordingly therefore I must assert my constitutional rights of the 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendment to the US constitution.” \\ MP: “Can we go off the record for a second?” // BE: “If it’s necessary.” \\ MP: “Yeah, lets go off the record.” // BE: “We’re gonna take a break.” \\ SJ: “Pausing the record at 12:35 pm.” // SJ: “We’re back on the video record at 12:44 pm.” \\ BE: “Can you tell me what my last question was - it’s ok I can pick up. Don’t worry about it.” // WoBE: “Ok when a 14 or 15 year old would be led into your bedroom you would appear from the shower first, usually naked, is that correct? Followed by your objection, Mr. Pike.” \\ BE: “Ok. And after appearing from the shower naked you would order the underage minor female to disrobe, isn’t that true?” // MP: “Same objections. Form” \\ JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit however at the present time my attorneys have counseled me I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and must accept their advice or risk losing my 6th amendment right to effective representation.” // BE: “You would then order them to or order her to begin providing you a massage, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Form.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit and I’d like to answer each and every one of your questions today, Mr. Edwards, however my attorneys have told me that I cannot do that today and must assert my 6th amendment, 5th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution or risk losing my counsel. Therefore I’m going to assert those rights as guaranteed by the 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendment.” \\ BE: “You would then roll over and begin masturbating, is that correct?” // MP: “Form.” \\ JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit. It’s - my understanding that the current US attorney has described your law firm as a criminal enterprise. Yours and Mr. Jaffey’s firm as a criminal enterprise and part of the largest fraud in Florida’s history fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against me and others in order to fleece investors out of millions of dollars through bogus schemes including conspiracy to, excuse me, commit mail fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering. So though I’d like to answer each and every one of your questions here today, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot and must assert my 5th, 6th and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution.” // BE: “You would then rub the underage minor female’s vagina and or insert your fingers into her vagina, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Form.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit. Unfortunately, today my attorneys have advised me I cannot and must assert my rights under the US constitution under the 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendments of the US Constitution. Especially since your firm has been described as a criminal enterprise by the current US attorney perpetrating one of the largest frauds in south Florida’s history fleecing investors out of millions by fabricating malicious cases, malicious cases, of a sexual nature against people like me and others.” \\ BE: “With many of these underage minors, you would use vibrators on them, is that correct?” // MP: “Form.” \\ JE: “I would like to respond to that question as I’d like to respond to all of your questions today however my attorneys have counseled me that I must assert my 6th amendment rights, my 5th amendment rights and my 14th amendment rights under the US constitution.” // BE: “And with many of these underage minors, you would give and or receive oral sex from them, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Form.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit and I’d like to answer each and every one of your questions. However, my attorneys have counseled me that today I must assert my 6th amendment, 5th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution, especially since your firm has been described by the current US attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in Florida’s history by fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against me and others.” \\ BE: “In June of 2008 you pled guilty to a couple felonies, correct?” // MP: “Form. Vague and confusing.” \\ JE: “Again?” // BE: “In June of 2008, you pled guilty to two felonies, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Same objections.” // JE: “Yes.” \\ BE: “And what were those felonies that you pled guilty to?” // JE: “Solicitation of prostitutes. Not underage prostitutes, but simply prostitutes. Solicitation of prostitutes and one count of procuring a minor for underage sex.” \\ BE: “And you’ve taken the 5th as to questions related to many of these underage minors but the underage minors that were the victims in the cases where you pled guilty, were [bleep] was that one of them?” // MP: “Form. Mischaracterizes a witness’ testimony, calls for early conclusion.” \\ JE: “Again?” // BE: “What was the name of any of the underage minors that were the subject of the criminal charges to which you pled guilty?” \\ JE: “I don’t know.” // BE: “So tell me about those charges, what were the - what was the, were they allegations of those charges?” \\ MP: “Form.” // JE: “Solicitation of prostitution. Not underage prostitution, prostitution.” \\ BE: “Were the victims or the prostitutes, as you would say, were they minors?” // MP: “Form.” \\ JE: “I pled guilty to solicitation of prostitution.” // BE: “Ok so tell me what those cases were about, what happened?” \\ MP: “Form again.” // JE: “I can’t tell you any more than that.” \\ BE: “You don’t know what you pled guilty to?” // JE: “I just told you -” \\ MP: “Object to form [unintelligible].” // BE: “Do you know what you pled guilty to? The facts.” \\ JE: “Solicitation of prostitution.” // BE: “I understand that’s the charge, what were the underlying facts? What did you do? Did you pull up in a car, talk to them in person, did they come over to your house, how’d you get them, those type of things. Tell the jury what were the underlying facts about the charge that you pled guilty to?” \\ MP: “Form. Move to strike.” // JE: “I don’t know.” \\ BE: “You don’t know what you pled guilty to?” // JE: “I pled guilty to solicitation of prostitution not underage prostitution, but prostitution.” \\ BE: “Ok. My understanding from reading the court file is that one of those females was [bleep], do you know who that is?” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions to this lawsuit. However at the present time my attorneys have counseled me I cannot provide answers to any of these questions today. So accordingly I must assert my constitutional rights under the 5th, 6th and 14th amendment to the US constitution.” \\ BE: “Were you aware that [bleep] someone who alleges she was at your house on more than 100 hundred occasions, is that true?” // MP: “Form.” \\ JE: “Could you repeat the question? Sorry.” // BE: “Are you aware that [bleep] is a female that alleges when she was underage she was at your house on more than 100 occasions.” \\ MP: “Form. Predicate.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit, Mr. Edwards. However today my attorneys have counseled me I must respond by invoking my 5th amendment right, 6th amendment right and my 14th amendment rights under the US constitution or risk losing them as my attorneys. Therefore I must assert those rights.” \\ BE: “You understand that her complaint was that Epstein turned [bleep] onto her stomach on the massage bed and inserted his penis into her vagina [bleep] stated Epstein began to pump his penis in her vagina and she became upset over this. She said her head was being held against the bed forcibly as he continued to pump inside her while she screamed no, are you aware of those allegations?” // MP: “Form. Predicate.” \\ JE: “I’m sorry, did you say there was a complaint?” // BE: “In the incident report that led to a charging document that led to a charge that you have pled guilty to. Are you aware of that information coming from [bleep]?” \\ MP: “I’m sorry, Mr. Edwards, what are you reading from?” // BE: “The 87-page Palm Beach police department incident report where there are numerous underage females describing their interaction with Mr. Epstein at his house. I’m reading specifically from page 41 related [bleep] to have ordered the victim to have pled guilty to?” \\ MP: “Is that the same document that you’re seeking production of in this same exact case?” // BE: “I don’t know what he’s talking about. This is something from the state attorney’s file.” \\ MP: “Ok. Sorry, what’s the question?” // BE: “Are you aware of that allegation? What I just read to you.” \\ JE: “I intend to - I’d like to answer that question however today my attorneys have advised me i must assert my 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendment rights to the - under the US constitution.” // BE: “[unintelligible] attorney has advised you that because of [unintelligible] double jeopardy, you can not be charged for any crimes that you’ve already pled guilty to related to [bleep], so I’d like you to just explain to the jury in your words, or your version of the story what was your interaction with [bleep] at your house when she was a minor?” \\ MP: “Object to form. As worded it discloses attorney client communications.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit. I’d like to answer each one of your questions today however my attorneys have counseled me that I may not. They’ve advised me that I must assert my 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution. Therefore if I don’t I risk losing their counsel. So therefore I must assert those rights here today.” \\ BE: “Were you aware that [bleep] advised police that she was ripped and torn in her vagina area and had difficulty walking to the car after this episode when you forcibly inserted your penis into her vagina?” // MP: “Objection. Relevance, argumentative, compound, harassing.” \\ JE: “This was who?” // BE: “The question was are you aware [bleep] [unintelligible].” \\ JE: “The current US attorney has described your firm as a criminal enterprise and part of one of the largest frauds in Florida’s history by fabricating fabricating malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others and fleecing investors out of millions of dollars by using means of - described in New York the complaint against your firm. Including mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering. I’m afraid today, though I’d like to answer each one of your questions, my attorneys have counseled me that I must not and must assert my 6th amendment, 5th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution. I believe you know I’d like to answer those questions, I must assert those rights or risk losing my attorney’s representation.” // BE: “Did [bleep] know [bleep]?” \\ JE: “Spell it for me please?” // BE: “I don’t know how to spell her name, but do you know a [bleep]? I don’t know that she would’ve ever spelled her name for you.” \\ MP: “Form. Move to strike.” // JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit. However at the present time my attorneys have counseled me that I may not provide answers today, though I’d like to. And I must in fact take their advice or risk losing their representation, so therefore I must assert those rights under the US constitution.” \\ BE: “Do you know the names of any of the females that you allegedly solicited for prostitution and pled guilty to?” // MP: “Relevance.” \\ JE: “Sitting here today no I do not.” // BE: “You asked me to spell [bleep]’s name that’s somebody that your attorneys took her deposition about a year and a half ago, does that help to refresh your recollection that [bleep]?” \\ JE: “I’d like to answer that questions but today according to my attorneys I must assert my 5th amendment 6th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution. I must accept their advice or risk losing my 6th amendment right to effective representation, Mr. Edwards. So though I’d like to answer the question today I must assert those rights.” // BE: “There’s another victim her name is [bleep] [bleep] that was listed as one of the females at your house that you pled guilty to the solicitation of and I’d like to ask you if you remember her?” \\ MP: “Form. Confusing, compound.” // JE: “[bleep].” \\ BE: “I don’t know her first name it’s initials [bleep] last name [bleep].” // MP: “Same objection.” \\ JE: “I intend to respond to all relevant questions regarding this lawsuit. However at the present time my attorneys have counseled me I cannot provide answers to any questions relevant to this lawsuit and I must accept their advice or risk losing my right to effective representation. Therefore, though I’d like to answer the questions, I must assert those rights today.” // BE: “With each case that results in a charge - “ \\ JE: “Is there more coffee? Sorry.” // BE: “Are we stopping again?” \\ JE: “Just to get more water, can this - Mr. Jaffrey can you pass water? No water? Sorry.” // BE: “With each conviction charge with each charge that leads to are facts and circumstances that lead up to that plea of guilty. What are the facts and circumstances that led to you pleaing guilty to the two felonies that you’ve described?” \\ MP: “Form. Over broad, compound, confusing, calls for a legal conclusion.” // JE: “I’d like to respond to that question, I’d like to respond to that question but today my attorneys have advised me I must assert my 5th amendment, 6th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution or risk losing effective representation. Accordingly I must assert my constitutional rights as guaranteed by the constitution.” \\ BE: “Just so we’re clear, because your attorney made an objection that it was unclear, and then you invoked your 5th amendment rights, I’m talking about the cases where you’ve already pled guilty, you can’t be charged again, what were the facts and circumstances that led up to you pleading guilty to these felonies?” // JE: “I’ve answered the question.” \\ MP: “Same objection. Asked and answered.” // BE: “Ok. and just so the jury understands this, these 3 females that were the subject of the guilty pleas in state court were procured by your method of having underage minor females locate other underage minor females and bring them to your house, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Objection, argumentative, compound, harassing, assumes facts not in evidence and I move to strike.” // JE: “You’ll have to repeat the question.” \\ BE: “Ok. [bleep] [bleep] are all people that were at the time you engaged in sexual activity with them were underage and were brought by other underage females, is that true?” // MP: “Same objections incorporated. As well as motion to strike.” \\ JE: “I don’t understand - I’m sorry I don’t understand the question.” // BE: “Isn’t it true that you used underage minor females to bring other underage minor females to your house for sex?” \\ MP: “Asked and answered. Way earlier on.” // BE: “He doesn’t understand - not a problem.” \\ JE: “As your firm, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffey has been described by the US attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in south Florida’s history by crafting malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others in order to fleece - using bogus schemes in the US attorney’s words - investment schemes. Unfortunately though I’d like to answer all of your questions if I’m able my attorneys advised me I must assert my 6th amendment, 14th amendment and 5th amendment rights under the US Constitution therefore at the moment I cannot answer that question.” // BE: “The acts related to your guilty plea occurred at your Palm Beach house, is that correct?” \\ MP: “Form.” // JE: “Again?” \\ BE: “Well if you were soliciting prostitutes it wasn’t out on the street it wasn’t in a hotel these were girls that you solicited to be prostitutes at your house in Palm Beach, correct?” // MP: “Objection. Relevance, argumentative, calls for speculation as worded and assumes facts not in evidence.” \\ JE: “Though I’d like to answer that question, my attorneys today have advised me i cannot answer today and must assert, they have advised me I must assert my 6th amendment, 5th amendment and 14th amendment rights under the US constitution otherwise I risk losing their representation. So accordingly I must assert those rights, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffey.” // BE: “In what county did you plea guilty to these felony offenses?” \\ JE: “Palm Beach county.” // BE: “These were crimes that occured here in Palm Beach county?” \\ MP: “Form.” // BE: “Is that correct?” \\ JE: “I pled guilty in Palm Beach county.” // BE: “Isn’t it true that you kept a calendar schedule - ok.” \\ SJ: “Going off the video record at 1:05 p.m.”

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