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Woman: "Do you know whether she kept any list of names of girls to come and give massages?" // AR: "She did, ma'am." \\ Woman: "And do you know in what form she kept those?" // AR: "She had notes and she always had papers but I don't know." \\ Woman: "Do you recall seeing the papers with telephone numbers on them?" // AR: "A couple of times." \\ Woman: "Do you know whether she also kept records from the computer relating to the girls?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "And how do you know that?" // AR: "Everything was recorded in the computer, everything we did as employees we used to record and kept in the internal circuit we used to have among the employees." \\ Woman: "And so would it be, if I understand you correctly then was there some sort of a program that you could access information, [bleep] could go into that program and she could access information you put in." // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "And did you also send each other emails that way or did you use a different program for emails?" // AR: "[bleep] didn't send direct emails to me but she will call me on her cell. But I was supposed to send to Citrix through the other employees." \\ Woman: "You email then through Citrix?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "Who would those other employees be?" // AR: "Mrs. Maxwell, Della in New York and mostly [money?] people you know Bella." \\ Woman: "Leslie?" // AR: "Leslie, yes, the secretary somebody else I don't recall name but -" \\ Woman: "And was there anyone else you could email on there?" // AR: "Well we could email anybody in the organization." \\ Woman: "On that particular program?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "And so who else would be in that organization?" // AR: "Other household managers in Paris, in the island or Manhattan or -" \\ Woman: "Do you know if [bleep] kept any pictures of the young women who would come to give massages on her laptop?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "You saw those pictures?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "Were the pictures uniform and by that I mean were they all taken for instance there at the house so that they would all be fairly standard?" // AR: "The would be all over. Sometimes out of the country and sometimes in the house." \\ Woman: "Were these pictures that were taken by someone for the purpose of keeping them in that program?" // AR: "I don't know, ma'am." \\ Woman: "As opposed to for instance one of the young ladies bringing a picture to give to [bleep]." // AR: "I don't know." \\ Woman: "You don't know where the pictures came from?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Do you know was there anyone staying in the house who often took pictures of young women?" // AR: "There were several cameras in the house and they were used often but I don't know who used them." \\ Woman: "Do you remember what kind of cameras they were?" // AR: "They were small compact cameras." \\ Woman: "Any other kind?" // AR: "I don't remember ma'am." \\ Woman: "Did you ever see [bleep] using that small compact camera to take a picture of the girls?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "And when you saw her doing that, where were they? The girls." // AR: "In the dining room, the library on the first floor of the house." \\ Woman: "DId you ever see Ms. Maxwell taking pictures of the girls?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Did you ever see Mr. Epstein taking pictures of the girls?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Were you ever told by anyone that sometimes Mr.Epstein would take pictures of the girls?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "And do you recall who told you that?" // AR: "[bleep]." \\ Woman: "Do you recall what she said about that?" // AR: "He likes photography and he likes it, like a hobby." \\ Woman: "Do you know which camera or what kind of camera he used to take those pictures?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "You said I think you never saw him taking them." // AR: "Yeah." \\ Man 2: "Yeah meaning correct?" // AR: "Yes." \\ Woman: "Was it your understanding that he took those pictures upstairs?" // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "And when you had occasion to go upstairs, do you recall seeing camera equipment?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Were you ever told that he took pictures of the girls nude?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Were you ever told that he liked to have pictures taken of the girls nude?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "I believe you were asked before in the deposition about the stairway leading from the kitchen upstairs and whether or not there were pictures on that stairway?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am, there were pictures.." \\ Woman: "And were those pictures, some of them, of nude young women?" // AR: "Not in the stairway. They were in the foyer on the second - the foyer leading to the master bedroom." \\ Woman: "Were those - what size, generally, were those pictures?" // AR: "I'd say 3x5." \\ Woman: "So very large pictures." // AR: "Yes ma'am." \\ Woman: "Were there lots of photographs just around the house on top of furniture in the various rooms?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "And were any of those photographs of young women in the nude?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Did you recognize any of those young women?" // AR: "Yes, a couple, yeah." \\ Woman: "Who was it that you recognized?" // AR: "[bleep]. And some other girl from Brazil that was at the house but I don't recall her name." \\ Woman: "And was this a girl that would come and stay in the house or one of the girls that would come and give massages?" // AR: "They will stay in the house." \\ Woman: "They'd stay at the house. Do you recall a picture of a girl of a young woman nude in a hammock?" // AR: "No I don't remember, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Was there surveillance equipment installed in the house?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "And was that already installed when you came there?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Where is it? First of all did they tell you where the equipment was installed?" // AR: "No." \\ Woman: "Did you have any understanding of where the equipment was installed?" // AR: "No." \\ Woman: "Do you know whether or not there was surveillance photography equipment upstairs and downstairs?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Woman: "And how do you know that?" // AR: "I read the FBI report after the fact that I - after I left the job." \\ Woman: "Before reading through the FBI report, did you have any knowledge of the fact that there was surveillance equipment both upstairs and downstairs?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "While you were there, were there ever an occasion when someone came to do any maintenance or repair of surveillance equipment?" // AR: "Yes, ma'am." \\ Man 2: "[unintelligible] on the last question." // Woman: "Pardon me?" \\ Man 2: "Form. Last question." // Woman: "Form? Did that happen more than one time?" \\ AR: "I believe so. Yes, ma'am." // Woman: "Do you have any recollection of who came there, either the name of the company or the name of the person that would come repair or do maintenance on the video equipment?" \\ AR: "We used to have a young technician from Ohio who used to maintain all the computers and he would be the only one dealing with those things." // Woman: "And so he maintained the computers and the video equipment, correct?" \\ AR: "Yes." // Man 2: "Form." \\ Woman: "Do you have any recollection of what his name was?" // AR: "I don't remember, ma'am. Only that he came from New Albany, Ohio. I don't remember his name." \\ Woman: "New Albany, Ohio? And did he have his own business?" // AR: "No, he worked for Mr. Epstein. He would maintain all the computers." \\ Woman: "Was he there every day?" // AR: "No, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Do you know whether at that time Mr. Epstein had an office in Palm Beach?" // AR: "Not outside the house, ma'am." \\ Woman: "Do you have any knowledge of whether or not the video was - and I don't know the technical term, forgive me - was it the kind of equipment that would record for a certain amount of time and then record over that film?" // AR: "I don't know." \\ Woman: "You don't know?" // AR: "No." \\ Man 2: "I may have - just for clarification - i may have misunderstood but I thought you said you didn't even know the video equipment existed until you read the FBI report." // Woman: "He said he didn't know whether it was upstairs and downstairs, I believe." \\ Man 2: "I thought he said he didn't that it even existed." // Woman: "I may be wrong. Did you know it existed before you read the FBI report?" \\ AR: "No, ma'am." // Woman: "Ok, I'm sorry, then I was wrong. How did you know then that the young technician from Ohio maintained the computers and the video equipment?" \\ AR: "Because we used to request - there were always problems with the computers - so he came to the house and he was the programmer and he was very sophistocated equipment." // Woman: "How did you know then that he maintained the video equipment as well?" \\ AR: "Because he was in charge of computers, video, even phones." // Woman: "Would he also repair the televisions if they needed?" \\ AR: "No, ma'am." // Woman: "No?

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