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Man: "- Office this morning at like 3a.m." // Woman: "You're joking me." \\ Man: "I'm not even joking with you. And we don't keep any files there, I've kept everything like remotely. Like, fuck. Just so you know." // Woman: "Well I have a feeling my phone's being tapped so just to let you know, so that's why I'm saying like whatever -" \\ Man: "I've changed my device now literally half an hour ago." // Woman: "Yeah. So there's something really fucking weird going on and I'm just coming to terms with what you told me now, so. This is really bad." \\ Man: "Did you see the screenshots I sent you? Where he's asking if she - she emails Jeffery if she could introuce you to him." // Woman: "What? No. I can't get it - what? No, your screenshots are coming to me blank." \\ Man: "They're coming blank? Really, like there's nothing on the screenshots." // Woman: "Yeah. Which has never happened before in my life." \\ Man: "What the fuck? Ok." // Woman: "You need to give me those screenshots." \\ Man: "It's asking if she introduced you to Epstein." // Woman: "Is that from [bleep] email asking if I introduced you [bleep]." \\ Man: "Yeah." // Woman: "So I've just sent you a screenshot of what's arrived, like and you can see there's blank, blank, blank messages on the screenshot which is really fucking weird." \\ Man: "I think something's - I think there's something going on to be honest I don't really [unintelligible]." // Woman: "No, 100% but if you can somehow get me those screenshots or even, i'll give you -" \\ Man: "I'm gonna take a photo off a friend's phone." // Woman: "This is so - look at this. Like I'm sending you this now, yeah, and this is [bleep] what I've got on my phone just to show you how -" \\ Man: "And the images on my phone - there's voice notes, and I like, in that period they all [unintelligible] please ask to send the [bleep]." // Woman: "No ways. Cuz you know I've had evidence deleted off my systems so she is - so that's further, and it's been corroborated by another attorney other than the victims so that's - this is brilliant, by the way, incidentally, because all -" \\ Man: "That's proof that he emailed her asking did she send you - this was like in 2018." // Woman: "Right, I know there was an email sent in 2017 asking if she knew me by Epstein. Was she still in contact with Epstein at the time of his arrest?" \\ Man: "Yes she was fucking sending naked pictures of herself." // Woman: "Up until his arrest?" \\ Man: "Like, so she said like, before ok, up to that point Epstein was her buddy. that was the story I knew, ok. She said what a great guy he is like, that was I had never even heard of this guy, you know? [unintelligible] And she was like, she had the best time going to the island, that she travelled the world because of him and like she got introduced to top scientists because of him and like you know like she flew in a private plane and she was named like a big business woman because of it. It's like - do you know like what a -" // Woman: "So basically throughout the years she's still got shit from epstein." \\ Man: "And was emailing - she even emailed like cuz that was like the start of the end and like I from that point I never trusted her cuz her computer was open and she was sending naked photos of herself to epstein." // Woman: "Brilliant. That's brilliant [bleep] and you called to testify in a court of law under oath to that." \\ Man: "Yeah." // Woman: "Brilliant." \\ Man: "Yeah, just because it's just like, it's just like i don't know, to be honest like what level she's willing to go to, I mean -" // Woman: "No this is pretty serious, [Vin?]. This is as serious as it gets. Like this is she, i - i - I'm going to do my utmost to put her in jail for what she's done. I'm being deadly fucking serious, dude. What she has done is so bad -" \\ Man: "My parents are obviously like freaking out but i've just phoned them [unintelligible] everyone except my brother is in a location where she'll never find them." // Woman: "Ok, because you do know, I'm just going to pre-warn you now, is tomorrow definitely happening?" \\ Man: "Well I'm literally meeting with the head of police force South Africa right now in about half an hour and the thing that is, it's serious because she's even, she's slept with, I don't know - ok, let me not say things I don't know 100%. But she's befriended on a deep level the station commander and [unintelligible]." // Woman: "Yeah cuz she's sleeping with him." \\ Man: "I didn't wanna say that cuz i don't have proof of that -" // Woman: "Well, I know, I know like, yeah. That's legit and she was sleeping with another guy as well. And he actually pre-warned about the social services so he warned her like before they arrived. So she, so I know, and [bleep] she totally cleaned the house before they arrived. She knew they were coming. Because of him." \\ Man: "It gets even deeper, like police two days ago tortured one of my staff. The CIA they got an iron you know that you iron clothes with and they held it against his chest and beat him and waterboarded him in front of his child and wife." // Woman: "Why?" \\ Man: "To find out, they're asking where where we keep our camera footage, where we keep our filings, because obviously i want to keep anything with the royals [unintelligible 6:40] was broken into this morning." // Woman: "Are they gonna file police reports?" \\ Man: "So we've opened the case now with IPD[?] which is the independent police directors[?]." // Woman: "Ok, so what I'm saying is like in a court of law there is an actual paperwork that you have? Cuz a lawyer will ask you and if you say you have opened a case and there's no case number, so there's legitimately, really -" \\ Man: "No we have a - we have so the J88 form which is from the hospital is being filled out and I'm not sure if - you see, it's like obviously because I have an [unintelligible] maybe it can potentially come from somewhere else, but I just, I, you know? Just like I - I don't believe it's -" // Woman: "Well. Hen[?] I find the fact that I can't get her screen messages on my phone pretty extraordinary, that's never, in all the times I've ever used WhatsApp in my life, that's never happened." \\ Man: "And it's actually saying this voice note is no longer available, this voice notes with you where you're talking? Cuz I, she trying to play them and it's like please ask the sender to resend it or something." // Woman: "Yeah, I've never seen that before in my life." \\ Man: "That's pretty fucked up." // Woman: "And have you ever had this before in your life before, anybody else?" \\ Man: "No but I've never really had any reason to go like digging through their messages, photos from 5 years ago. You know? Really I'm such a chill person that it's like - and it's like this is just like it's well over my head and i'm also getting calls from random numbers and so I don't know if they're trying to like, trying to threaten me, whatever but it's I [unintelligible 8:25] also like I'm just gonna -" // Woman: "So basically someone's coming after you, in a nutshell." \\ Man: "That's the way I feel right now and I'm not nervous, I'm not scared of [bleep] she's a coward. When it comes down to it, she really is a coward and she uses other people to do her dirty work and -" // Woman: "Did you ever hear her talking about me to the attorneys?" \\ Man: "You know [bleep] I can't remember everything but you know, the number of like, the number of twisted stories and I, at this stage, I didn't even know what was like the truth or what was made up, I just didn't know. To be honest. Cuz it went from being her best friend who she still is in contact with sending naked photos of to her being the #1 victim in the world and then anything she was interested in is what she can get out of it." // Woman: "Well that's, that's why I'm taking her down because what she's actually just done is she's thrown a legitimate victim and I've got evidence against all the traffickers, like all the guys to hold accountable." \\ Man: "Are there any South Africans that are involved?" // Woman: "Yeah, Miles and Kathy Alexander were the two housekeepers on the island and they know everything and [unintelligible] the South African government [bleep]." \\ Man: "I can't even - I didn't even, I just don't remember, you know, there's messages mentioning people's names, but I mean, how connected are these housekeepers, it's like -" // Woman: "I don't know, I don't know. But all I know, well all I know is that they know everything, they were the housekeepers. Well, island managers so, but the fact that [bleep] when she's done basically obstructs justice and I don't know if you've just seen a recent video that she's put on Twitter, I mean I don't know - " \\ Man: "[unintelligible]." // Woman: "No I've just sent you it like this morning, she's just done this like weird video and I'm just like dude, you're in for a very big surprise. But I can't go, I can't do my press release until you [bleep] because obviously i [bleep] I don't want to step on your toes cuz there are gonna be messages from you so I don't want her, cuz I'm gonna like literally throw like fucking everything the [bleep] gonna come out and I don't obviously want. you know, out of respect for you and I made a promise to you I wouldn't do anything before asking you, you know?" \\ Man: "I just - cuz the thing is, you know what it came down to at a point in South Africa it's all about who has the most money and the royals and stuff like that and when she kicked me out, you know, she purposely kicked me out after taking money from myself and my parents and she left me with 10,000 Rand, ok? Which you can't get a house with in Capetown, do you know what I mean? And I was sucked, my family is not, you know, i mean - I'm not from money and she knew that and she knew that she could basically fucking abuse me and put me in the situation because she made me put everything I had saved over the years and even my parents money into her bond and her accounts and I, you know, I, cuz she was, cuz I, you know what? Looking back I'm a fucking idiot. But like also remember, she's 10 years older than me also so it's like I didn't expect someone would be capable of this, say they love someone, whatever, and -" // Woman: "You know what, can [bleep] can I tell you something, Hen[?] it's happened to me, you know fucking hell, i was dating a multi-millionaire, I was stepmother to his children for 4 years, I literally was a - I was his housekeeper. He had his gin and tonic and his silver glass waiting for him, cooked meal, fucking I lived, I got kicked out of my own house I had 2 cents to my name, 2 cents while he kept the Aston Martin, the Range Rover, the house, fucking hell. And you know what, these people and the only, the only thing the only way that I can cope with what they, these types of people is karma. Is karma. And [bleep] you don't go around taking someone, befriending someone and taking someone's conversations for 5 years, I'm sorry for the attorneys and it wouldn't be for anybody else, so." \\ Man: "You know, and it's like so that's, I can 100% confirm that she was doing it with a second phone cuz even, she was always doing like, you know she's like I don't know if you've seen but she's like always on her phone, right?" // Woman: "Yeah, well I've never met the girl, so I've never been, you know I've just literally seen on the phone and spoken to her so I - god alone knows what she does." \\ Man: "She's a professional, she's a professional fucking [bleep]. She's a professional actress. Like...and there's no other way to describe it. She is a, like, of a - she's obviously not stupid." // Woman: "No, she's very clever." \\ Man: "And she's on a completely, like higher level but evil higher level where she, the whole time is being like -" // Woman: "But the point of the story is she was still in contact, sending naked pictures and still friends with Epstein up until his arrest. So basically it was just - so she was put in touch with me by the attorneys just after i think it was September, it was September after he was arrested." \\ Man: "And those were the fraud attorneys, [unintelligible]." // Woman: "Oh the attorneys, that's who I'm taking down, so she's actually been working with them. So, yeah. Nice one." \\ Man: "Yeah, it's just, it's just, you know what the thing is? It's like, enough is enough. She thinks she can just do what she wants and fuck up whoever she wants." // Woman: "Well and the attorneys are the same [bleep], i'm not doing, there's no money for me. Like, I mean, fuck. Whatever. Like, I - do you know what I mean? The fact of the -" \\ Man: "I don't care about the money. I don't want nothing to do with the money, it's cursed." // Woman: "No, no absolutely not. And, you know, and all the things she said behind my back she was never my friend and I, you know, what she's -" \\ Man: "She definitely was never your friend. They absolutely like, she was - they opted to use you from day one." // Woman: "Right. Ok. Cool." \\ Man: "And I'll say that 100% like -" // Woman: "So you know the -" \\ Man: "You spoke for her for hours man I remember you spoke for hours on the phone." // Woman: "Do you have any idea? She, I spoke about my family my, my - what she's done, she's basically stolen the last 5 years of every single thing and the fact she's taped it is horrific." \\ Man: "And what about, there's some group that she was under [bleep]." // Woman: "I didn't even know there was a [bleep] so this is all news to me. [bleep] only survivor she's spoken to at all. She doesn't speak to anybody else." \\ Man: "She was on a WhatsApp group with them with the other ones." // Woman: "Right. Ok, brilliant." \\ Man: "Well 100% I can confirm that also." // Woman: "So, that's brilliant. Ok, so. And she was still chatting away like a mate with Jeffery Epstein just before his arrest and sending naked pictures." \\ Man: "Yes and like, and everything she ever sent that like that they were buddies and for 100% one of the girls who still worked for Epstein like til he died was one of the girls that she trafficked to [bleep]." // Woman: "Do [bleep]?" \\ Man: "No, I don't. There's also [bleep]." // Woman: "[bleep]. So that's another new name to me. Wow. Ok, listen if you can try and take a - I need to, do you have any messages direct messages between Epstein [bleep]?" \\ Man: "Nope because I saw her, because she left her computer open and there was a naked picture of her and had just sent the email and was outside smoking a joint. It was at that point in time, I was like, I will just never forget it cuz I read the email, you know?" // Woman: "What did the email say, do you remember?" \\ Man: "You know, like keep being well, all good, you know like how's things going on your side. She called him like J she didn't even write his full name, like that's how close they were." // Woman: "Oh my god. Ok." \\ Man: "And - you know, it's just anyways, it's -" // Woman: "Well I'm going to head, I'm gonna plan, just so you know I mean again I'm gonna have to just digest this again. {laughs} It's like, holy shit it just goes from like worse to worst -" \\ Man: "But do you see the thing where like she, where he asked her if you were one of the women that he had introduced to him. [bleep] introduced like as a traffic -" // Woman: "Yeah, yeah I do have that email and I've never ever ever understood why - that's the only correspondence [bleep] and she, and I - I've always questioned it, why, why is Epstein emailing you in 2017 about me -" \\ Man: "Because they were still in contact the whole time over the years and theres another [Indian guy? 18:17] who was involved that she was in contact with I can't remember his name you see I've gone to psychologists, I've [unintelligible 18:26] - for and anyone who's gone to this psychologist [unintelligible] for 6 months every three days." // Woman: "Well she's tried to defraud the medical fund that I set up with saying [bleep] is a professional therapist so they wanted to defraud a fund, 10 million, that I set up, so that the fund would [bleep] as a professional psychologist to deal with the trauma -" \\ Man: "Have you met [unintelligible]?" // Woman: "[Hen?] She, no, seriously, I and -" \\ Man: "It's like what the fuck." // Woman: "No, but you do know that if she is [bleep] her child gets taken, that when she was warned. She said that to me. If she is caught, so that's why she's being [bleep] at the beach and not at the -" \\ Man: "They're calling my mom in the middle of the night to get, they're threatening her. I've sent you the messages just like one time where just like, my mom's like I just got a strange phone call but that's just my mom trying to be nice, you know? And this is like at 1am when they're trying to [unintelligible] and you know what I mean." // Woman: "Ok cool, look well I mean how do you think it's going to play out tomorrow? I know you've got your meeting." \\ Man: "Well look, everything she's done [bleep] is technically illegal so -" // Woman: "Well it's child abuse and neglect. Cuz he was once sick and I actually thought he had meningitis and she refused to take him to the doctors. So she won't take him to the dentist, his teeth are all rotting, the boy's fuckin [bleep]." \\ Man: "[unintelligible] details [unintelligible]." // Woman: "I can't it's too upsetting which is why I finally got the courage to message you when I did. Cuz enough's enough, you know? And -" \\ Man: "Yeah but I'm going - no matter what, tomorrow when I go there because she can't, by law, once she's been denying me access it's actually illegal." // Woman: "No, it is illegal." \\ Man: "And you can't deny access so i'm the, no matter what I just [bleep] then she must come and try to get him. And then when she tries I'm just going to do what she's done to me and block her at every turn cuz I've got the money now and I -" // Woman: "So are you going to the estate tomorrow?" \\ Man: "I'm going to the estate tomorrow, yes." // Woman: "Are you going with police?" \\ Man: "I'm going with the head of the police force of Africa." // Woman: "Fucking brilliant. Ok so when that guy, cuz she's definitely, I know for a fact she's sleeping with him in Haute Bay when she calls him and he comes this guy is his boss, basically." \\ Man: "Yeah and the head of IPD. I've really we're going to we might even go meet with them today and I'm gonna, and the guy the police officer said you must remember that he only wears that uniform for 12 hours a day, those were his exact words." // Woman: "Yeah, yeah. Yeah, ok, cool. Well look, you have your meetings today and fuck I'm so excited about tomorrow I really am and you're gonna get your son back but I'm just saying, if I was you I would [bleep] know where you guys are at all." \\ Man: "No, no, no one knows she says i'm in hiding but it's actually i'm hiding from her." {both laugh} // Woman: "Ok there you are, fair enough. Ok, that makes sense. Yeah, ok. Cool, cool. Fair enough. Ok cool well look, you have your meetings and just keep in touch and as I've said I'm gonna wait until the end of the week because obviously I'm [bleep] a sniff of that we've even been talking. Because if she knows we've been talking, she's a very smart girl Sven, very smart. And she's so smart she's actually hoodwinked me for 5 years so just yeah she's [bleep] and go in the morning, by the way, because she'll be hungover." \\ Man: "Exactly, early morning." // Woman: "Early morning, early morning, go early morning she'll be fucking fucked from the night before. I mean I know that the video that she just posted last night on Twitter she's drunk." \\ Man: "Yeah she's an idiot." // Woman: "Cool well look, you take care and stay in touch, thanks Sven."

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